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and with the number one overall pick in

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the Kennedy Space Center NFL Draft NASA

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selects Jacksonville Jaguar quarterback

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and aerospace engineer Josh Dobbs

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[Applause]

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every chief engineer verify no

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constraints belong to nasa's internship

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program now has an NFL quarterback in

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its ranks josh dobbs of the jacksonville

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jaguars has a degree in aerospace

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engineering and thanks to the NFL

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players associations externship program

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he is now working as an intern at the

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Kennedy Space Center in Florida this

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offseason Josh took a few minutes out of

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his hectic schedule to share his unique

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insights on NASA and life in the NFL

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please note this was recorded in studio

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prior to the current social distancing

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guidelines I'm here at Kennedy Space

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Center in the audio booth with joshua

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dobbs NFL quarterback for the

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Jacksonville Jaguars thank you so much

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for being here but glad to be here thank

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you for having me started playing

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football when you were 5 years old you

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played high school ball for the

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Alpharetta Raiders of Alpharetta Georgia

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went on to have a great career at the

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University of Tennessee where you were a

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starter for several winning seasons in

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2015-2016 won some bowl games you were

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drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers in

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the fourth round of the 2017 NFL Draft

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after several seasons with the Steelers

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who were traded to the nearby

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Jacksonville Jaguars as a quarterback

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for the team and what's so interesting

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to our audience is that currently you're

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doing an internship with the engineering

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department that right that is right at

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NASA's Kennedy Space Center and folks

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why is that because Josh busted out of

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four oh not in the 40 but of course I

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don't have it all very cool right but

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you had a four Oh in your grade point

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average and in the aerospace engineering

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major at UT is that right

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yes sir bring in the brain and the

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brains and the Brawn just love it well

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so tell me Josh well you're you're here

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doing this internship kind of helped me

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understand how you've been able to play

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football and

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keep up fascination Thanks it's been

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definitely a process when I was younger

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I tribute a lot of you know my set

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success and habits I created to my

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parents I grew up an only child so

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quickly at an early age they kind of

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taught me no1 obviously excel in the

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classroom that comes first but then they

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also pushed me to doing different

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experiences participating different

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activities that would joy outside of

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school so they helped me figure out that

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I love football by placing me in just

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about every single sport you could place

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your kid in home when he was 5 years old

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so you know the different experience

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that I had growing up and being able to

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juggle football baseball basketball

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along with taking accelerated classes

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and then being in the band I was in

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karate I was in chorus I've learned I

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couldn't sing but I was in chorus yeah

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yeah I can't see course to find out to

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find out right so I did all of those and

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elementary school middle school high

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school so as the stage grew and as

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things got more difficult to have its

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that created when I was younger but what

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I was able to fall back on when time

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management was key in college being able

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to juggle play has to see football at

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the quarterback position and also being

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an engineer definitely called for long

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SCC quarterback starting quarterback for

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the Tennessee Volunteers and at the same

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time in the aerospace engineering school

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like how did you do that well no I'll be

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afford to one say that I did it by

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myself because Tennessee gave us a great

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framework when we got to school with

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different study halls and giving us

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different tutors and mentors that are in

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our fields were able to learn and learn

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the lay of the land but also it took you

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know determination I think you know on a

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daily basis you're in class from 9:00

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until 2:00 then practice is from 2 then

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meetings are from 2:00 to 4:00 practice

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from 4 to 6 then you have post workout

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post film and then your study hall and

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inner to the library and then you wake

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up and repeat process the next day and

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you have to eat throughout the day so I

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think I close down the library just

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about every single day of my college

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career but

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again it was the habits I was able to

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form I was younger learning how to

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manage my time be productive be

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disciplined and understand when I came

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to college I came there for a reason I

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hey I want to play for what that is

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level but I also want to pursue an

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engineering degree that I know that I

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will enjoy I something that I'm very

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intrigued with I want to learn more I

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want to be an engineer it's being able

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to juggle two things I was extremely

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passionate about you know made it not

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suffering but made it very enjoyable

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fascinating people are going to be so

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amazed to hear that how you juggle all

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those things but you give credit to your

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parents who kind of helped you instill

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some good habits in you in a very young

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age which is pretty cool what are you

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gonna be doing here at KSC so thus far

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week I started off and the kxi division

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where I was working instrumentation was

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swimming day you know shadowing them

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seeing you know they had hazardous gas

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detection system learning about the wind

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profile that they have for launch day

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weather protection system on the mobile

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launcher so just seeing different things

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and understanding how the

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instrumentation works from an electrical

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point of view and then from there it's

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kind of been every single day it's been

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a different opportunity where I've gone

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from there to I've gone to flight

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accessories so seeing the different

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biblical is how they work how they

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secure the rocket to the mobile launcher

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to seeing different tested seeing

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different tests that they're performing

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on the instrumentation to then see

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learning about the core stage and how

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it's going through this green run

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testing and talking about SLS right

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generation world's most powerful rocket

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that we're gonna use to send people back

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to the moon and then tomorrow yeah so

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it's been a whirlwind I've learned about

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the SLS the whole space program the

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Artemis project um Orion which goes on

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top of SLS mhm um so it's been a

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whirlwind of a week I've kind of seen I

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think all of KSC but I know the next

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couple of days I'll continue to see more

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and I'll continue to have my mind

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expanded by what's going on here and

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it's truly amazing to see the innovation

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that's going on on a daily basis

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absolutely and the space history that's

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here when you're told that like this is

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where the Rockets took off and and took

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Americans to the moon for the first time

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that that's so humbling because I

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the I'm connecting with the history just

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because no just growing up being so

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interested engineering like the history

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is what you look up every single day

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like oh wow this is what we're doing

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this is where we've come from so then to

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be able to be here on the footstep of

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where it all happened where innovation

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happened where the science happened

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where the engineering happened and where

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the launchers actually took place to

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take the people first to space and then

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to the moon now to the International

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Space Station where they'll take place

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to go to Mars it's it's it's is it's

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kind of chills down your back honestly

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no driving in every single morning and

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just seeing cuz I'm at OS b1 so it's the

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one right next to the VAB right so drive

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Vehicle Assembly Building the iconic

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iconic building drive-in parking from

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that building every single day you know

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it really wakes you but when you get you

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get here like 7:00 a.m. but you get out

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the car you see the eyes like wow

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there's so many people have come before

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me that paved the way to what's going on

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here at NASA now so just know I'm not

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here from a long time but to be here and

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just get a glimpse and be able to touch

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you know what's going on here it's just

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truly amazing experience now you've only

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been here a short period of time and for

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those who if you've never met Josh Dobbs

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he comes across I just met him a few you

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know minutes ago but you come across as

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a very polite very gracious with your

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time kind of person but now you're

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coming in as a professional quarterback

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to a lot of people who are engineers who

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might be big football fans right they're

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gonna like oh dude are you gonna get any

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work done like how do you how do you

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kind of give him a little stiff arm

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without being rude you you obviously you

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give them both everyone wants to talk

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about football I mean it's like

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America's favorite pastime and we're in

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like football central USA right here

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so everyone was talking about the game

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which I don't mind I love talking about

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the game but like the first couple of

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days also say you're like mostly I'm

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here to learn the life of an engineer

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because I wanted because that's also

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part of who I am I'm an engineer I went

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to God I studied aerospace engineering

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so I want to see the day in the life of

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the engineer so it's funny the first day

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we're mapping out no but everything that

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was gonna do here and they were saying

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oh you know you don't want to go to the

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meetings let's just show you the cool

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stuff I said okay what is it the cool

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stuff but also truly I truly want I want

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to sit down on the

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the engineering meeting where you're

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discussing different things are going on

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with the projects and different

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instrumentation you have to test I want

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to see the logistics side of it to

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understand what it means to be an

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engineer I want it maybe I've seen their

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shadowing you doing your desk busy work

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but that's still still interesting to me

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because I want to see I'm not being able

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to be around this field a lot in the

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real world I want to see what it's like

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to be an engineer for a day so I kind of

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taking it all in whether it's the

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coolest over here at the VA be the

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vertical Assembly Building throughout

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the pad where the launchpad or whether

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you're just sitting in the office doing

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normal desk work it's it's all wanna see

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it it's all enjoyable to me you

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mentioned meetings now NASA likes

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meetings in acronyms I've learned that

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quickly those are the two those are two

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hot topics here it's like another

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language it is speak I started looking

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at the dictionary online I'll just write

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just look it up online and go home don't

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ever be afraid to ask for acronyms

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everybody knows it out here right you

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know gotta get this figured out well so

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so what about the Pro Football party

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yeah I mean right now you're a

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professional quarterback in the NFL for

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the Jacksonville Jaguars so what your

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goals with your aim there am I am there

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so obviously I was traded from the

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Steelers subject to Jacksonville at the

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beginning of last season I'm due to

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injuries and then logistics and then

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also the NFL's of business so you have

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to respect that side of it as well my

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goal is to be a starting quarterback and

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in the NFL there's only 32 of them and

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now that wouldn't be one of those 32 so

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that's what I'm working for every single

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day I miss funding you go from

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engineering all day didn't going over to

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Jim guy get your workout in so days

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obviously can get stretched out but you

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notice it goes back to college you know

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I understand how it is to juggle both

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sides of it how is it to work toward a

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dream to work toward a goal so every

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single day I'm stacking chips whether

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it's right now in the engineering world

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but then also get making sure I'm

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getting my training my conditioning to

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be able to be prepared once our

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offseason regiment starts in April hit

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the ground running and be able to go in

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and dominate once the season comes I

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love to hear that well so these two

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goals here becoming a starting

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quarterback in the NFL and then possibly

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an aerospace engineer it's tough to

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imagine how you can keep that going

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forward

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but and to be to be clear very difficult

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to get the internship so how do you

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these two branches keep them going at

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the same time of course right now I'm a

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professional football player and that's

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my focus but the beauty about you know

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being a professional football player in

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the NFL and NFL PA is they provide you

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with opportunities like this an

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externship where you can go and take 3

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weeks of your time in the offseason to

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immerse yourself into a field of your

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interest so to have these these three

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weeks to immerse myself into the

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engineering world is amazing and then

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once this one is just and we're back to

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the grind where you're back on your

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training regiment every Sunday throwing

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lifting running is you're taking each

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year you're just building chips so you

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know obviously like most interns are not

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able to expand extend the amount of time

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but I'll be able to have this

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opportunity to first learn everything

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that's going on at KSC be able to see

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the big picture and see different

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subsystems and then next year I'll be

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able to grow on that so obviously you

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can you think of like goals and they

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want instant gratification like I got to

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do both now right so I'm working on one

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now and then playing the long run for

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the other one so it works out pretty

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well just seeing the big picture taking

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the small pieces step by step to get

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your goals you're right because it's

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very hard to realize a big goal like

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becoming an aerospace engineer all at

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once especially at NASA right right

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right

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so what do you think about the new

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Artemis program this is the one where

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we're seeking to land a woman the first

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woman and the next man on the moon by

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2024 that's just four years away when

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you hear that and you know that there's

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gonna be a ton of engineering that kind

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of gets behind this with you we've got

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on the moon before but really going in

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the moon this time is to help go build

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back stuff right for Mars so what what

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kind of what do you think about a goal

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that big that NASA has said I think it's

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amazing I think it's obviously been a

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while since we've gone gone to the moon

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and obviously a lot of reasons behind

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that ability International Space Station

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we were doing other missions but for

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that to be a goal and just to see how

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that goal is basically the framework the

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support to the to the next goal the

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springboard to go into Mars I think is

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extremely exciting and I think the the

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most interesting thing that I've seen on

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a daily basis is

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when you go out you're a part of the

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different subsystems and you're

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interacting with the different engineers

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the stuff that they're doing when

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they're building the mobile launcher and

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when they're assembling this rocket

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stuff that's never been done before

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that's what's so amazing about it it's

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it's not like they're coming here and

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mass producing a piece that operates on

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a daily basis they're literally building

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a rocket to do something that it's never

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done before and that has never been done

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and mankind so it's it's actually it's

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special right it's is almost

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mind-blowing it's like wow like this is

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it's like something you see in movies no

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it's it's truly it's truly mind-blowing

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I often find myself when I'm walking

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around the Space Center particularly

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inside the VAB and I'm looking at those

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massive structures like I feel like I'm

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on the set of Star Wars well you know

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this you know the movie Pacific Rim

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where they have like this that's what

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it's like the hot the ginormous stealing

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Star Wars as well you know you're

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walking around there you're just like a

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kid in in a zoo almost know it is is

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amazing just because of the innovation

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and then being able to like have an

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engineering background just knowing what

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it takes you know it's taking stuff that

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you learned in school stuff that you've

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learned on the job but it's also being

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able to use those and critically things

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to solve problems that have never been

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solved before there's such a reward to

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that right I think that's kind of like

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what central to engineering is is having

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a problem and finding that unique

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solution is there a particular type of

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problem that you would enjoy helping

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NASA solve honestly you know any bonus

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for it was actually interesting

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yesterday I was over with the virtual

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reality team where they take your body

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dimensions and they put you they immerse

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you into different environments so like

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whether you're like an astronaut or

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something working on the mobile launcher

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you can see the stuff like actually work

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you know in the space right huh so I get

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chance to soon it looks extended time

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with them a little later but that was so

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interesting because I'm thinking like

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just how applicable that is like every

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situation whether it's here at NASA or

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in sports like just virtually seeing

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yourself in different situations and

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being able to take those mental reps so

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when whether you get on the mobile

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launcher you're trying to make an

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adjustment of your astronaut trying to

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fit in the space crap you know it's

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there's so many there's so many

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applications for that software for that

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technology and I

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think like really the sky's the limit

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for that just visually getting be able

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to visually see stuff and get mental

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reps at it so it's definitely

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interesting

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alright Joshua Dobbs you're working some

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long days interning by day here at

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Kennedy Space Center and getting ready

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for the NFL season coming up as a

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quarterback for the Jacksonville Jaguars

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we wish you great success and we thank

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you very much for being here and listen

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you know we we we know you're going to

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be fantastic but if someday down the

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road leave the NFL and you decide to

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come to NASA Kennedy we got dibs on your

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football team we got a deal no other no

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Joshua was a pleasure thank you thank

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you very much thank you for having me I

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appreciate it I'm Gerald nail and that's

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our show thanks for stopping by the

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rocket ranch and special thanks to our

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guest Joshua Dobbs to learn more about

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NASA's intern program visit intern

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nasa.gov and to learn more about

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everything going on at KSC go to

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nasa.gov forward slash kennedy and check

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